MiamiVR6T wrote:Yes the "myth" is real. Its very much alive. And for MiamiSpd, he says when ever you are ready to go all out... to let him know. He's been waiting on you

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Nelson-Performances-Own_696536.htm

Nelson callled me this morning to check out the race between him and the bike. Not taking anything away from Nelson's car but the bike appeared to pull on the Viper from the get go. Then Nelson starts to gain some ground and the bike brake lights come on. Not too impressed with the win, if that is what you are calling it.

It is no secret that I have been asking Nelson to race me pump v. pump for a long time without any luck. I know for a fact that he has tuned on pump gas. Why he won't race is a mystery. Perhaps he is not making enough power on pump? Maybe you can speak with him and he will change his mind.

There is no need for you to call me out to race Nelson. Nelson and I speak often. All he needs to do is call me and let me know when. I will tell you that Mexico would be the only place for me to run.

Chancleta's Daddy wrote:Diego, something is in the works just for you, just seat tight, and you will be owned in 2009. Will you man up and drive your own car?

I dont drive my car cause I like speaking to my customers as my car is doing the punishin'...as it will to yours. Its nice to know you have to go out of your way and build a car for my little 4cyl 4 door sedan but at the same time its good cause it keeps the economy going. If you need any performance parts feel free to stop by 6440 SW 40 St for great pricing on ALL your performance needs....and the lord knows you'll need alot of them....We will keep you in our prayers...LMAO!

Miamispd wrote:

MiamiVR6T wrote:Yes the "myth" is real. Its very much alive. And for MiamiSpd, he says when ever you are ready to go all out... to let him know. He's been waiting on you

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Nelson-Performances-Own_696536.htm

Nelson callled me this morning to check out the race between him and the bike. Not taking anything away from Nelson's car but the bike appeared to pull on the Viper from the get go. Then Nelson starts to gain some ground and the bike brake lights come on. Not too impressed with the win, if that is what you are calling it.

It is no secret that I have been asking Nelson to race me pump v. pump for a long time without any luck. I know for a fact that he has tuned on pump gas. Why he won't race is a mystery. Perhaps he is not making enough power on pump? Maybe you can speak with him and he will change his mind.

There is no need for you to call me out to race Nelson. Nelson and I speak often. All he needs to do is call me and let me know when. I will tell you that Mexico would be the only place for me to run.

I am on Pump Gas...I pay $2.39/gal. It would be fun to try a 40 roll someday....

What's up Diego. E85 is pump. That's cool. Would love to run you. 40 roll cannot do. Will roll at 60-65. Heck with what you guys did to Eddies TT Viper I will have my hands full. But first I have some unfinished business with Nelson. I should be ready to rock and roll in a week or so. Damian and Nelson both know that my AEM is at AEM getting worked on. So no need to call me out for a couple of weeks. I assure you that once I dispatch Nelson I will call you and see what we can do.

BTW, why don't you run Nelson? Who is avoiding who? Damian says that you guys are ready and have called Nelson out but he wont race you. Nelson says you guys wont run him. I am confused. What gives? Will that race ever take place? My money is with----?

Miamispd wrote:What's up Diego. E85 is pump. That's cool. Would love to run you. 40 roll cannot do. Will roll at 60-65. Heck with what you guys did to Eddies TT Viper I will have my hands full. But first I have some unfinished business with Nelson. I should be ready to rock and roll in a week or so. Damian and Nelson both know that my AEM is at AEM getting worked on. So no need to call me out for a couple of weeks. I assure you that once I dispatch Nelson I will call you and see what we can do.

BTW, why don't you run Nelson? Who is avoiding who? Damian says that you guys are ready and have called Nelson out but he wont race you. Nelson says you guys wont run him. I am confused. What gives? Will that race ever take place? My money is with----?

I dont really want to race Nelson right now and I dont think he really wants to race me right now either. We both agreed on that when we spoke Saturday. My car is not where I would like it to be to race him. I will race him but I know he is doing some final touches on the car getting it ready for the track and I also want to do some things to mine. The nitrous hasnt been working and we need to figure out why. I've never raced anyone with it and it wouldnt work when we took the car to the track. The car needs to be 120% to run Nelson's Viper but it will happen. No one is hiding from each other. He is probably the top contender being that he has an automatic. Just one gear to pull. The car is fast, I would say its "out my league" but when we race he has to give me my race...a low roll or dig. Nothing personal with you, I'm not calling you out. I just like to see my car in action and I guess you are the next fast car on the list. But I wont do 60 roll. Get your car to hook 40. Its a little 4 cyl. Come on Jorge....lol

Miamispd wrote:
Nelson callled me this morning to check out the race between him and the bike. Not taking anything away from Nelson's car but the bike appeared to pull on the Viper from the get go. Then Nelson starts to gain some ground and the bike brake lights come on. Not too impressed with the win, if that is what you are calling it.

It is no secret that I have been asking Nelson to race me pump v. pump for a long time without any luck. I know for a fact that he has tuned on pump gas. Why he won't race is a mystery. Perhaps he is not making enough power on pump? Maybe you can speak with him and he will change his mind.

There is no need for you to call me out to race Nelson. Nelson and I speak often. All he needs to do is call me and let me know when. I will tell you that Mexico would be the only place for me to run.

He wants to run all out. Not on pump gas. He wants no excuses. Run with all you got. Tune on race gas or E85 "pump" and run him. Until then he doesn't care to run pump vs pump. That car will only see race gas.

And if you're not impressed than your Viper must be pretty crazy. Do you have any vids on the internet or any kills you have to talk about with your car???

MiamiVR6T wrote:
He wants to run all out. Not on pump gas. After he swithced to the automatic his car lost a ton of power, he can't afford to get embarrassed by you, or for that matter by a juiced Z06 on pump. He needs to run on race gas so he can hide his lack of power on pump gas. Tune on race gas or E85 "pump" and run him. Until then he doesn't care to run pump vs pump, he knows he does not have shit on that tune. That car will only see race gas.

Makes perfect sense!

Lock something up please someone....and please do in car footage.....Damn with a 150mph car I would be racing 140mph cars every week for fun......

Nelson just called me and we have agreed to race pump v. pump (93 not E85). He knows that my AEM is out of the car and getting checked out at AEM. Once I get it back we will set it up. So there are no questions or doubts we will both go to a gas station and witness each other pump 93 in our cars. Video will be taken for all to see.

Miamispd wrote:Nelson just called me and we have agreed to race pump v. pump (93 not E85). He knows that my AEM is out of the car and getting checked out at AEM. Once I get it back we will set it up. So there are no questions or doubts we will both go to a gas station and witness each other pump 93 in our cars. Video will be taken for all to see.

lol, some 'middle-men' are just bad at setting up races.

NorySS wrote:

Miamispd wrote:Nelson just called me and we have agreed to race pump v. pump (93 not E85). He knows that my AEM is out of the car and getting checked out at AEM. Once I get it back we will set it up. So there are no questions or doubts we will both go to a gas station and witness each other pump 93 in our cars. Video will be taken for all to see.

lol, some 'middle-men' are just bad at setting up races.

Thats the same thing I was saying about you "Don King"?...

theres no way that was nelson. that looked like a fair race.

Miamispd wrote:Nelson just called me and we have agreed to race pump v. pump (93 not E85). He knows that my AEM is out of the car and getting checked out at AEM. Once I get it back we will set it up. So there are no questions or doubts we will both go to a gas station and witness each other pump 93 in our cars. Video will be taken for all to see.

With all due respect to you Jorge, I dont see where you get credit for making X amount of power on 93 octane. Who cares? Honestly to me it shows you dont know how dangerous it is to push your car on 93. If the reason is cost of fuel for c16 and the inconvenience then go e85 but I just dont see any other reason. I cant imagine Frank Smith is the one advising you to keep the car on 93. Do you know how easy it is to get a bad blend of "93" octane. That shit will blow up instantly. I would feel alot more comfortable knowing exactly what octane I have in my tank specially with the $ it takes to build your Viper. Thats probably the biggest reason why Nelson wont run his car on 93. To each his own but its not safe. If you want cheap fuel run E85.

EVO BYD wrote:

Miamispd wrote:Nelson just called me and we have agreed to race pump v. pump (93 not E85). He knows that my AEM is out of the car and getting checked out at AEM. Once I get it back we will set it up. So there are no questions or doubts we will both go to a gas station and witness each other pump 93 in our cars. Video will be taken for all to see.

With all due respect to you Jorge, I dont see where you get credit for making X amount of power on 93 octane. Who cares? Honestly to me it shows you dont know how dangerous it is to push your car on 93. If the reason is cost of fuel for c16 and the inconvenience then go e85 but I just dont see any other reason. I cant imagine Frank Smith is the one advising you to keep the car on 93. Do you know how easy it is to get a bad blend of "93" octane. That shit will blow up instantly. I would feel alot more comfortable knowing exactly what octane I have in my tank specially with the $ it takes to build your Viper. Thats probably the biggest reason why Nelson wont run his car on 93. To each his own but its not safe. If you want cheap fuel run E85.

no disrespect to miamispd but he has a valid point

Street cars run on 93, race cars run on C-16. Ricers run on E-85 because they can't make any power on 93, and it is cheap. It is a known fact that big cubes can make a ton of power on 93 octane. Who can afford ro run a street car on
15$/gal fuel?. Unless it is a dedicated race car,or it doesn't make any power on pump gas, it does not make any sense.

If those vipers want to run on pump gas, then let it be, and don't hate because your 4 banger can't.

Yellow Viper (aka BIG FOOT) doesn't want to run on pump gas because as MiamiVR6T posted , since making the switch to the Auto he lost a tone of power, probably makes less than 900 rwhp LOL.

Didn't he bragged about his 1100 rwhp on pump gas all over the net?, and how he only was tuned on pump gas, and only run in pump gas?

I would think the whole point of building a big cube motor as Yellow Viper is to enjoy the advantage, and streetability of running 93 octane, which you can get on any corner any where. If not just build a supra or Evo and become a prisoner of
E-85., and constantly watch your fuel gauge, and carry x-tra jugs in your garage to amke sure you can make it to the gas station that carries E-85.

I'm building an LSX 454 for my C-5. Pump gas all day!